No you will not get permabanned for that. Unfortunatley you will be required to exercise your adult judgement on when you're on the threshold of taking it too far.

If you feel yourself incapable of reliably doing that, then I suggest you err on the side of caution.

Contract me all your ISK and stuff and we'll find out together.

I answered this question a few pages page.

The short answer is that the person controlling the situation has the responsibility to see that it doesn't go too far. I assume that you're sufficiently intelligent to determine when you're about to push someone over the line. This most specifically does not include in game actions: if someone goes into a screaming meltdown because you blew his ship up, then too bad for him. If you continue to interact with him and goad him for no reason other than to goad him, then you're in the red zone.

Scam all you like.
Gank all you like.
Spy all you like.
Awox all you like.

Excercise judgement & discretion when rubbing salt into the wound afterwards.

Is that so hard to understand?

Hope this helps

Sorry that EVE criminal law isn't any more clear cut that real life.

Yes it was.

They already had ALL of his stuff. They literally had nothing left to gain from him IN GAME.

So yeah no, you're the bullshitter.


And you know it.


And CCP agree with me, so as previously advised, suck it up buttercup. I'm in 319- if you want to make something of it.

The "it's just pixels" argument is fine to make if talking about your pixels. But if I got mine with GTC, or spending 300 hours mining, they may represent more than just "pixels" to me.

I hate when people pull the "just pixels" crap in Eve, when we know full well people make massive time, energy and money commitments to be here. If you're carefree with your pixels, grand. Don't assume everyone feels as you do.

Btw, give me your pixels, since they are "just a few pixels".

So let me get a stab at this...

Erotica1 and friends scam someone from all of his assets and his isk and made a recording of them trolling him on TeamSpeak while they are doing it. Keep in mind, the victim goes through the process of contracting all of his assets to the scammers and doing this willingly.

After an hour and 45 minutes the victim goes completely berserk and starts threatening the scammers with real life threats, he calls them names and at some point even goes as far as using racist terms such as the N word.

Mind everyone, Erotica1 and his friends stay completely cool and have done nothing out of the ordinary for ingame Eve Online standards. They are not responsible for other peoples stupidity and can not see into the future that their actions will set the victim off like this. But it is in no way their fault. Every man is responsible for what he says regardless. A scamming action is no valid reason for calling people the N word or threatening them in real life. There is no justification for any of what the victim said to them, period.

But now, from what I understand CCP faults Erotica1 and his friends for what they have done...

Is it me or did their morals drop down below zero on this ? I think the fact someone is using such language, in such a hostile way is far more offensive then what Erotica1 did. In fact, CCP nurtures scamming behavior... So who is at fault here and why ????

That doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the same protection as everybody else, usually laws and policies apply to everyone.

ITT: A few people who seem to completely lack the faculty of comprehending what might entail "clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment against players in the outside world."

I would agree. And that has not changed :)

How do you know what Erotica1 was banned for?

Cite your source please.

There is an "s" at the end of the word "recording" there are several. Exercise your due diligence and go find them, we don't have time to bring you up to speed.

So are you saying that so long as it only one person who has been humiliated or harassed then its okay?

Please explain in detail the thought process behind asking another player to dribble mayo on their mouth and take a picture. Then explain why E1 got so upset when people found personal details about his purchasing habits from info he left in public. Then tell us about his peanutbutter fetish. Explain why he was too extreme to remain in GS and was kicked. Why does he get his kicks from humiliating others. Then tell us all why we should give a rat's ass about another random weirdo that got caught out there fapping to other's misery.

You can't ,can you? You have to stick to the talking points you were issued.

Fair enough, if you believe Sokhars reaction was extreme, but was not caused by any actions by Erotica, then what do you believe caused such an extreme reaction from Sokhar?

The game he was playing, I thought Eve was about shooting space pixels, I didn't realise it also involved being humiliated and then having a recording of it all placed on the internet.

Must of missed that part on the advertising, need to ask CCP to make a promo vid.

ok where has anyone said that the racism and threats where allowed. Also in your opinion did this not go beyond a scam . Think about it the scammers got all his assets and still continued . At that point was this still a scam

Trash talking after a fight is all about your ego. Personally, I find players who feel the need to do that to be weak. They are just like children on a playground, trying to paper over their own insecurity with posturing. It's a waste of time. As is responding to it.

You say something repugnant enough while you are trash talking, you will find yourself wondering why that banhammer hit you so hard. Even if you personally can't understand. Seen people banned for stuff said/posted in local. And every time they acted surprised, as if they couldn't imagine why.